Waiting until a target passes through the crosshairs (unless tailing them) will result in a miss as they will be out of the sights before the cannon starts firing. The 9L has the same impulse (force applied over time) as the AIM-9D. If it would miss that one opportunity.. I won't lie and first say that I have little to no experience at all with the actual sidewinder 9L except dodging it in T-2 and F-40 sabre I don't own the AH-1Z, only the EC665 Tiger UHT and the Mi24P+. (Sidenote: since the plane was adopted into service in late 1975 when AIM-9H was the current AAM, meaning that even the currents F-4E/F-4EJs AIM-9Js are kind of too old considering the years in which the T-2/F-1 was in service. © 2020 by Gaijin Games Kft. Rockets mounted on the T-2 bridge the gap between air-attack and ground-attack, allowing the fighter to either hammer bombers with the rockets or ground targets such as trucks, anti-aircraft batteries and ships. All rights reserved. 11K likes. And gaijin keeps buffing and nerfing even same weapons just in different vehicles for whatever reasons. I barelly use AAMs. Shaped more like a dart than the stout Jaguar, the T-2 was built for speed, though to help with maneuverability the wings do not house fuel tanks and feature leading-edge root extensions (LERX) and full-span leading-edge slats on the wings to aid in creating a higher angle of attack or higher lift capacity, especially helpful during slow flight. While excelling as an interceptor, this fighter will still hold its own in a manoeuvring fight, granted as long as under-wing armaments are limited to the Sidewinder missiles and not the heavy bombs. The Mitsubishi T-2 is a rank VI Japanese jet fighter It was put into final production later that year. Infact most of the people in the thread have been rather thoughtful so far. Only F-4Es sometimes turn them off when dodging a missile.). This site uses We recommend the following browsers Select Language Site search Donate Site search Donate It was introduced in Update 1.87 "Locked On". Gaijin doesn't give a damn if I should guess. Being a slower plane focused more on AAMs. Two stick and a rock for the entire platoon! Do you think the Mitsubishi T-2 could use some more capable AAMs? But I'm open to see wether I'm wrong. Though it has the external looks and automotive performance … Side note: right now the 9L's front aspect lock ranges seem a bit strange (I was doing some testing in a custom battle and found that I could lock an FGR.2 on mil power from 3km, which is correct, but on burner I could only lock from ~3.7km, which is definitely not correct -- according to the AIM-9L SMC it should be able to lock targets in afterburner at about 28,000ft/8.5km front aspect. Added to Watchlist. Making friends, being lewd w ppl and stuff ;). 360://https://wiki.warthunder.com/images/e/e8/Cockpit_t2.jpg, Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier, Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps, Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway, 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles, 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder air-to-air missiles, [Devblog] Mitsubishi T-2: The Supersonic Stork, https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=T-2&oldid=83986, 38 mm bulletproof glass - situated between the fore and aft cockpits, 1 x 20 mm JM61A1 cannon, chin-mounted (750 rpg), 5 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,500 lb total), 5 x 750 lb JM117 cone 45 bombs (3,750 lb total), 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 5 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,500 lb total), 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 5 x 750 lb JM117 cone 45 bombs (3,750 lb total), 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets, 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets, 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles + 5 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,500 lb total), 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles + 5 x 750 lb JM117 cone 45 bombs (3,750 lb total), 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets, 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets, Has a radar and radar gun sight, allowing you to better plan your "boom"s and get your rounds on target more reliably, 2 pilots (Not vulnerable to pilot snipes). At the time, the United States offered Japan the T-38 and Britain/France offered the SEPECAT Jaguar for investigation. <3, In 1971, the USAF and U.S. Navy agreed to jointly develop the, http://www.designation-systems.info/dusrm/m-9.html. Not exactly sure how the custom missions work? Do you think adding the first all-aspect AAMs for one of the 'weakest' (weakest in specs) 10.3 plane would "break the game"? Brah wtf lol In 1971, the USAF and U.S. Navy agreed to jointly develop the AIM-9L, a vastly improved Sidewinder based on the AIM-9H. Well the F-1 can bring a few things to the Japanese like the ability to equip the ASM-1 anti-ship missiles, the CBU-87/B cluster bomb and having an improved radar and radar warning systems, as well as the F-1 being a single-seat Attacker instead of a two-seat trainer (Japan lacks a dedicated Attack aircraft). Subscribe Subscribed Unsubscribe 58.1K. or we keep the t-2 with it's current missile and we **** the F-1 with all aspect missile because i don't want a gap that would be too much between the ki-200 (8.0) and the T-2 wich is a real 10.0 in term of raw perf. Which was predating the introduction of armed T-2's into JASDF service. Once it gets going, 750 rounds of ammunition do not last very long. The variants of the final model, the T-2 were: T-2Z (early model that later ended up being modified for the SF-X program), T-2A and T-2B (trainer models) and the T-2K, the armed model, carrying an M-61 Vulcan 20mm fast-firing autocannon. Which was predating the introduction of armed T-2's into JASDF service. At most, people tend to fire from 1.5-2km away. - Wallpaper Abyss also points a) and c) still have value imo. 4. You don't get it in this game. Official documents are hard to find as they are apparently mostly still classified, but all third party sources give it a G loading of 30 G+. Hitotose_Aria, April 29 in Passed for Consideration. This way hopefully it may be easier to show what exactly do people think it should equip. Built as a trainer aircraft, the trainee pilot and instructor sat in tandem with the instructor in the rear-raised seat. Due to their relatively small size, any loss in surface area will cause the fighter to over-lift on the good side sending the aircraft into a roll and then potentially into a flat-spin. The XT-2 became the first Japanese-built aircraft to break the sound barrier in level-flight. 6. Join now and take part in major battles on land, in the air, and at sea, fighting with millions of players from … Lets ACTUALLY fix WT. So I agree with you there fully. 1. Thats why they nerf and buff stuff that they see under or overperforming. The T-2 was designed and built for one main purpose and that was to train pilots in flight at around Mach 1.4 in preparation for flying faster Mach +2 fighters such as the F-4EJ, F-104 and the Mitsubishi F-1. Yeah if BRs are increased the T2 could still be a good 10.0-10.3 give it 4 aim9e and it should be good of it fights Mig19s,Mig21 f13. Collecting historical documents in the salt mines. Then is the AIM-9L (possibly with mistrals and iglas?). Use the trade register http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php and you will discover these sidewinders were not delivered to japan until 1983-1992. A T-2 right now is superior in everything except max speed and initial turn radius. Aerial combat is a 3-dimensional art with many intricacies that take years to master. Once again, assuming BRs get decompressed eventually and that more modern aircraft are added in future, I don't see why the same sort of extreme "stock syndrome" wouldn't affect the T-2 as well, if it were given access to AIM-9Ls; it would probably be too powerful to fight any aircraft without access to flares, even though the T-2 itself doesn't have flares, and without its AIM-9Ls it wouldn't have any reliable means of standing up to its contemporaries. I would however love to see how the AIM-9L would perform in an air RB battle. Its worse in every way except the first two turns compared to its 10.3 rivals, just like the Hunter F.6 on its br. This is at sea level though, at higher altitudes and at longer engagement ranges, I'm not sure if it's possible. War Thunder has the most comprehensive list of authentic war planes for players to enjoy. You say the year Aim9L was starting development and finished but that means nothing in the context of japan. And performing the way it does. Add to Watchlist. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. and will be buffed even more when my bug reports go through. You've got the same AAMs on the AH-1Z which got recently put down to 10.0 with all the armament and agility it has. I don't even know that much about the gamefiles. War Thunder Pro. Air-to-air combat should be avoided when carrying bomb loads as this will significantly decrease manoeuvrability. Cancel Unsubscribe. It could have a chance if it warmed the AIM-9Ls in time to launch them. It was introduced in Update 1.87 "Locked On" . On that note, I'd suggest, if anything, to limit the T-2 to 4x rear-aspect AIM-9P at most, which would ideally warrant a BR increase to 10.7 (assuming that some sort of BR decompression will come in the future and things like the MiG-21Ms and F-4E will go to 10.7/11.0+). Though developed as a training aircraft, the T-2 is a formidable foe which is fast, sleek and can carry a one-two punch which can easily knock-out enemy aircraft unfortunate enough to race through the Japanese fighters crosshairs. In either case, I wouldn't be opposed to letting the in-game T-2 remain limited to 2x Sidewinders while a future F-1 has 4. - to see the development of AAMs look at the picture in the bottom with particular AIM-9s put into a tree sorted by advancements, upgrades as they went into service one by another and what missile has been developed from which predecessor.). (At 10.3 everyones got an afterburner and everyone makes sure to make a good use of it. Did you notice while playing the F-4EJ/F-4E/Mig-21MF/Mig-21SMT that you can launch a missile at someone in a headon or from the side because of their afterburner? View production, box office, & company info The Evolution of Steven Spielberg. Loading... Unsubscribe from Slick Plays? EDIT: I don't see a problem with the plane having its br brought up with the ordnance it receives. < > Showing 1-5 of 5 comments . or maybe just push for a Mitsubishi F1 with AIM 9P cause that atleast gets RWR, Sadly doesn't seem to have been equipped with ECM / Flare pods unless someone has a source on that. [T-2/F-1 armament, use of AIM-9L] https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mitsubishi-f-1/, [T-2/F-1 armament, use of AIM-9L] http://www.airvectors.net/avt2_f1.html, [Sidewinder development dates and detail]http://www.designation-systems.info/dusrm/m-9.html, The T-2 should be able to equip AIM-9L's but only 2 of them while the ability of carrying 4 AAM's should be reserved for the F-1. However if its not possible for me to try it out myself then I'd be grateful to see the videos you've mentioned. Page 2-Check out and contribute to the War Thunder Wiki & Game Guide War Thunder Hacks & Cheats - Page 2 - MPGH - MultiPlayer Game Hacking & Cheats - Hacks, Cheats, Downloads, Trainers, Games All Types Forums Posts Groups Group Messages Visitor Messages Albums Pictures Picture Comments Users User Notes Crossout . I don't believe that giving one underpowered plane all-aspect missiles would create much of a problem. Get involved with the community that will keep you up to date with all the latest in War Thunder. Crossout . so the AIM-9L has a no escape range of roughly 3000m by these crude calculation. In War Thunder, the T-2 will be the first supersonic jet aircraft to occupy rank VI of the Japanese aviation tree, with the release of the upcoming update 1.87. The tail portion of the aircraft like many modern fighters featured an all-moving tailplane and airbrakes were outfitted to allow for slowing the aircraft down either in manoeuvres or when preparing for landing. On 28/04/2020 at 19:12, Hitotose_Aria said: On 02/05/2020 at 23:08, Hitotose_Aria said: Mitsubishi T-2 - AAM "upgrade" (4x AIM-9P/L). /-/ I don't have AAMs. War Thunder: Victory is Ours . (Like would they work in the stock game as other custom missions or do you need the dev kit thing with the older launcher?). Which doesnt have these stupidly overpowered characteristics. Definitelly not as much as you do. If it didn't have at least the superior AAMs? With 4x AIM-9Ps. Do you think the T-2 would be overperforming, being able to equip AIM-9L? But I'm open to see wether I'm wrong. Edited April 30 by Hitotose_Aria A podcast about the World War II MMO War Thunder. Because the ATGMs aren't better. Resembling the AIM-9Ls DeltaWing neck FWD controls along with the destinct blue colour the AIM-9Ls were marked with. But basically if the AIM-9L ever gets fixed to it's historical performance it will be an even more massive step up from the AIM-9J. a) being 3,5-4,5km away going 1450 kmph in alt ... you can easily run away in a straight line from a missile. Also I'm not sure if its just my lack of knowledge about the particular AAM (I'm comming out of the experience with Stingers and R60Ms.) What sidewinder - should be available for this aircraft in your opinion? Browse more videos. predating the introduction of armed T-2's into JASDF service. (AIM-9L - Missile is already present and correctly implemented in the game.). SOURCE: http://www.designation-systems.info/dusrm/m-9.html. Due to the characteristics of the JM61A1 cannon, it requires an initial spool-up time or spin of the cannon barrels before ammunition can be fired. To help in instances where the aircraft must fly at slower speeds (landing, bombing and ground rocket attack) slats and spoilers help to create a higher lift capacity and roll rate which prevent the aircraft from stalling and plummeting. Don't take me wrong. Damage sustained to the wings will not affect fuel loss as no tanks are mounted here; they are only mounted within the fuselage of the aircraft. The T-2 can be outfitted with the following ordnance: Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. When targeting an aircraft, for example, the pilot must remember this formula to be successful, while leading an aircraft or before an aircraft passes through the crosshairs, start squeezing the trigger about .5 to .25 seconds before that event and the cannon rounds should land on target. 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